(Just saving some old conversations)
No, that's fine, Bridgette. :) I like receiving good reviews. It helps tease out more information for those who are new to this subject.
For example, I love to hear you mention the year 2001 b/c most people don't read far enough to learn that although it was enacted in 1997, the deadline for removal of Thimerosal as an adjuvant was 2001. And of course, it is still used worldwide, especially in the DPT in India/Africa.
Most people also don't realize that some vaccines on the schedule still contain Thimerosal. Here’s the CDC ingredient list so parents can see which ones contain Thimerosal:
The FDA left a loophole. It can be used during the manufacturing process. The companies are not required to disclose the exact amount in the finished product, nor do they test for that. Most of the package inserts say, ">.3mcg." Which I suppose sounds good to many people, as .3mcg is a tiny amount. I guess my question to them would be: is a tiny amount proven to be undamaging to the brain? This guy clearly is anti-vaccine, but he uploaded a video that makes it simple to understand:
My second question is: exactly how much is a child receiving? Yes, .3mcg just so happens to be right under the daily limit exposure of .5mcg established by the EPA for mercury exposure. But that exposure level is based on ingestion of methyl mercury, not intramuscular injection of ethyl mercury. And if the child receives more than one vaccine containing that "trace amount" of Thimerosal, then it exceeds the already poorly established exposure levels. Or if the untested vaccine lots have inconsistent amounts, a common issue in ANY type of manufactured product, the child is receiving unknown amounts of Thimerosal in excess of the EPA levels.
But then we also have to look at something that has never been looked at in this debate. I know, isn’t it unethical that the safety of administering more than one vaccine, or more than one vaccine ingredient at the same time has never been proven safe? Just take a look at this cliché topic of Autism…they have only studied one ingredient out of a whole list of ingredients. Children are vaccinated with more than one vaccine containing more than one ingredient, right?
So, what if, say, Aluminum and Ethyl mercury had a synergistic effect? We already know aluminum is a neurotoxic substance. (Random aside: would you review these articles and break them down for me? I love your devil’s advocate position).
Yokel RA et al. The distribution of aluminum into and out of the brain. J Inorg Biochem 1999; 76: 127-132.
Campbell A et al. Chronic exposure to aluminum in drinking water increases inflammatory parameters selectively in the brain. J Neuroscience Res 2004; 75: 565-572.
Bishop NJ et al. Aluminum neurotoxicity in preterm infants receiving intravenous feeding solutions. N Engl J Med 1997; 336: 1557-1561.
Campbell A. Inflammation, neurodegenerative disease, and environmental exposures. Ann NY Acad Sci 2004; 1035: 117-132.
Shirabe T et al. Autopsy case of aluminum encephalopathy. Neuropathology 2002; 22: 206-210.
Armstrong RA et al. Hypothesis: Is Alzheimer’s disease a metal-induced immune disorder. Neurodegeneration 1995; 4: 107-111.
Flarend RE et al. In vivo absorption of aluminum-containing vaccine adjuvants using 26Al. Vaccine 1997; 15: 1314-1318.
Platt B et al. Aluminum toxicity in the rat brain: histochemical and immunocytochemical evidence. Brain Res Bull 2001; 55: 257-267.
Although the impact of ingesting it is minimized b/c the gut can process/excrete it, this is not true for intramuscular injection. Once it is injected, the aluminum then binds with albumin, giving it access to various important parts of the body such as, following our discussion, the brain. What is the impact of exposing the human to ethyl mercury and aluminum at the same time? Why is a product approved for use in America on millions of infants without first having a simple study run on the combination of these ingredients?
Here’s some commentary:
“in the presence of 50 nM thimerosal plus 500 nM aluminum hydroxide (open triangles [Δ]), the neuronal death increases to roughly 60%, an amazing increase and clearly demonstrates the synergistic effects of other metals on mercury toxicity and certainly thimerosal toxicity.”
We also have to think about how long these substances are in the body. Aluminum has frequently been dismissed as having a short half-life. Is that true for injection?
357 pages. Page 132:
”Human and animal studies have investigated the aluminum retention in the body. Within the first day of receiving a single injection of 26Al citrate, approximately 59% of the dose was excreted in the urine of six subjects; 72 and 1.2% was excreted in the urine and feces, respectively, during the first 5 days (Talbot et al. 1995). At the end of 5 days, it was estimated that 27% of the dose was retained in the body (Priest et al. 1995; Talbot et al. 1995). When 26 Al levels were monitored more than 3 years after a single subject received the injection, a half-life of approximately 7 years was calculated (Priest et al. 1995). However, when the subject was re-examined approximately 10 years after the injection, a half-life of about 50 years was estimated (Priest 2004).”
We know that the CDC recognizes the way chemicals can create a synergistic effect:
The possible combinations of exposure are huge and knowledge is limited about the effects of mixed exposures. Individual susceptibility adds to the complexity of exposure and resulting outcomes.
So I find it interesting that within the debate of vaccine injury and autistic symptoms, the CDC has little to say on the topic, don’t you? It seems most people already understand that Autism has some form of genetic predisposition (as does everything). Most people also understand that environmental triggers are required as well. So what implication does this basic concept of human illness have for vaccines? Vaccines are a one-size-fits-all product. The same vaccine, in the same amount, with the same ingredients, is given to every single infant at the same time. The vaccines have not been proven safe or effective when given concomitantly, nor have the individual ingredients within all of the vaccines.
This is especially troublesome when we consider the fairly recent discovery of MFTHR-5 Polymorphism. It seems roughly 50% of the population has a genetic difference making methylation inefficient, especially with the addition of synthetic vitamins.
(Here is a link for a quick grasp of the subject: http://lifebalanceinfertilitycoach.wordpress.com/2008/10/07/the-mthfr-tutorial-genetic-mutation-and-cause-of-miscarriage/)
Why is this important to know? Because glutathione production is tied into the methylation cycle. Glutathione, often called the “master antioxidant” is produced by the body and works to break down and excrete toxins from the body.
What happens when someone with an inefficient methylation cycle and inadequate stores of glutathione is exposed to multiple vaccinations at a young age? Does the aluminum accumulate in the body? Does the ethyl mercury accumulate in the body? Where does the body store it? The bones? Brain? Gut? What symptoms appear from the metal toxicity? Are these symptoms correctly diagnosed as metal toxicity, or are they called Autism? Does Autism exist separate from metal toxicity? Are we letting children fall through the cracks because we defend the vaccination program beyond scientific scrutiny?
What happens when the child is then exposed to acetaminophen? We know that acetominophen can drain glutathione supplies. That’s why if you overdose, the ER doctor gives you NAC.
"An overdose of acetaminophen can cause depletion of glutathione and land a person in the hospital. "Acetaminophen toxicity is the number one cause of hospital admission for liver failure in the United States," he said. "
"Glutathione detoxifies acetaminophen, but once glutathione is depleted there can be significant cell death in the liver [THE AMERICAN JOURNAL OF MEDICINE; Flanagan,RJ; 91(Suppl C):131S-139S (1991)]. AIDS victims can suffer severe liver and kidney damage by using acetaminophen or alcohol, which severely deplete glutatione [PROCEEDINGS OF THE NATIONAL ACADEMY OF SCIENCES (USA); Herzenberg,LA; 94(5):1967-1972 (1997)]. "
Even the mainstream is starting to recognize a compounding problem here:
“Giving babies Tylenol to prevent fever when they get childhood vaccinations may backfire and make the shots a little less effective, surprising new research suggests. It is the first major study to tie reduced immunity to the use of fever-lowering medicines. Although the effect was small and the vast majority of kids still got enough protection from vaccines, the results make "a compelling case" against routinely giving Tylenol right after vaccination, say doctors from the CDC.”
As with any disease or injury then, it’s much more than “Vaccinate with Thimerosal and get Autism.” That’s faulty thinking. This is about personal predisposition, health status at the time of exposure, ability to detox/heal, compounding factors or additional exposure to other toxins, etc. Why did one kid develop autistic symptoms after vaccination and the other didn’t?
Was one kid induced a week early?
“Babies born only a week early are at higher risk of a host of serious health problems from autism to deafness, research has shown. A study of hundreds of thousands of British schoolchildren found that those born at 39 weeks are more likely to need extra help in the classroom than those delivered after a full 40 weeks in the womb.”
Was one kid sick at the time? Did one kid react to the vaccines with a fever? Did the parent give acetaminophen to that kid? For several days in a row? Was it infant acetaminophen, which is concentrated b/c they assume the infant will spit some out? Was one vaccine part of a “hot lot” as they call it, and one kid received more aluminum or ethyl mercury than the other?
And why can’t these questions be applied to the rest of our environment? Why would it surprise anyone if autistic symptoms develop when a child is exposed to aluminum in formula?
“Researchers looked at 15 brands of infant formula sold in the UK including powdered, liquid, cow’s milk-based and soy-based products. Typically, powdered formulas contained more aluminum than liquid formulas. The results showed that infants using the formula would ingest up to 600 mcg of aluminum per day, an amount several times higher than what’s typically allowed in drinking water!”
Or water about lead in our toys, our clothes, our soil, our homes? What about the mercury in our food, batteries and air? What about the combination of all of this? What if one kid lives in a state with very high toxin levels in the soil and air, AND gets vaccinated? Compared to a kid in a lower level state who only gets one or two vaccines?
For example, take a look at this chart:
Interesting, isn’t it, to see California all colored in blue? Maybe that’s why recent research showed that better diagnosis and earlier diagnosis do not account for the 700% increase in Autism in that state:
“A study by researchers at the UC Davis M.I.N.D. Institute has found that the seven- to eight-fold increase in the number children born in California with autism since 1990 cannot be explained by either changes in how the condition is diagnosed or counted — and the trend shows no sign of abating.”
Well, anyways, I love pouring through this stuff and could do it for hours, but both of my babies just woke up. So I will just toss this up and have to be on my way. Thanks for the great discourse!